{"id":112,"date":"2012-12-14T14:17:24","date_gmt":"2012-12-14T14:17:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thekitcheneconomist.wordpress.com\/?p=112"},"modified":"2024-11-28T14:28:05","modified_gmt":"2024-11-28T14:28:05","slug":"wtf-is-happening-with-labour","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/memerabble.com\/?p=112","title":{"rendered":"WTF is happening with Labour"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Martin Ferris has is as &#8220;[Gilmore] has destroyed every party he was ever in, and he&#8217;ll destroy this one too&#8221;<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>The man who recruited Gilmore into the CPI believes that he is &#8220;a weak man, a coward&#8221; so I&#8217;d expect him to be tremendously risk adverse, he&#8217;ll take the path that requires him to take no action.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Obviously the younger generation are going to get raped in the next election, but even if the party splits (which is what Keaveney&#8217;s move looks to be aiming at) they only need nine td&#8217;s to maintain a majority<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I&#8217;d say that they could hold onto<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Gilmore \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a057<\/div>\n<div>Quinn \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 66<\/div>\n<div>Howlin \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a056<\/div>\n<div>Rabbitte \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a063<\/div>\n<div>Jan O&#8217;Sullivan \u00a0 \u00a061<\/div>\n<div>Joe Costello \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a067<\/div>\n<div>Eric Byrne \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 65<\/div>\n<div>Emmet Stagg \u00a0 \u00a068<\/div>\n<div>Sean Kenny \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a070<\/div>\n<div>Jack Wall \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 67<\/div>\n<div>Alex White \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 54<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>without difficulty<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Then there is also the Juniors Sherlock and Lynch, who might just stick around if the Govt ain&#8217;t going to fall<\/div>\n<div>Eamon Maloney is a hand picked coward he&#8217;ll stick with Rabbitte, this job is a reward for years of good service<\/div>\n<div>Kevin\u00a0Humphreys\u00a0could go either way, but seems a long term party loyalist<\/div>\n<div>Lyons could go either way, but he shares a\u00a0constituency\u00a0with Shorthall so he doesn&#8217;t have much to gain from jumping into a lefty-Labour life raft<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Spring, Tuffy,Conway, MacNamara, Dowds, McCarthy, Burton, Phelan, \u00d3 Riord\u00e1in, Nolan, Conaghan could easily regroup with<\/div>\n<div>Penrose, Shortall, Broughan, Nulty, and Keavaney<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>A couple would have to shift constituencies, if a deal could be done there, you could see Lyons jump ship, and maybe Humphreys too<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>They might also go for a wresting of the party from Gilmore strategy, but that could be messier than a defection<\/div>\n<div>you have the old bull and the young bull battling for\u00a0supremacy, but I suspect that the internal Labour party rules will be fierce convoluted, and will delay a\u00a0usurpation\u00a0for some great period of time.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>More immediately the problem will be the seanad.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Gilmore can count on Higgins and Hayden,<\/div>\n<div>Whelan, Landy, Kelly and Heffernan are looking very shaky<\/div>\n<div>but if the bad piss from the Girls vs Boys spat continues to have an effect that could shift Bacik and O&#8217;Keefe away from the rebels<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>so there could be a\u00a0hilarious situation where those girls vote for what is\u00a0perceived\u00a0to be anti-female\u00a0measure<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Marie Moloney and Mary Moran have been fierce friendly with Shorthall of late.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>in any respect, you&#8217;ll have the quislings in the Endapendents voting with the Govt (tough call for JvT on which way she swings there)<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>2nd stage is on Tuesday, committee on Wednesday there are plenty of murmerrings that the govt no longer has control of the seanad<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>fun and games<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Martin Ferris has is as &#8220;[Gilmore] has destroyed every party he was ever in, and he&#8217;ll destroy this one too&#8221; 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